States off the ladder

In Integral Psychology (2000) the mystical states (psychic, subtle, causal, nondual) are drawn as the top four rungs of a single developmental ladder.

States off the ladder: Integral Psychology (2000) beside Integral Spirituality (2006). Left: a single ladder of ten rungs from Integral Psychology, archaic, magic, mythic, rational, pluralistic, integral, and then psychic, subtle, causal, nondual on top, the top four marked as states. Right: the Wilber-Combs lattice from Integral Spirituality, the six structure-stages up the side and the four states, gross or psychic, subtle, causal, nondual, across the top, twenty-four cells. The four top rungs of the ladder have become the column headers; the six lower rungs have become the row labels. Below, a verbatim passage from Integral Spirituality chapter 4 and a note that Integral Psychology already said states are available at any stage.
States off the ladder: Integral Psychology (2000) beside Integral Spirituality (2006) Left: a single ladder of ten rungs from Integral Psychology, archaic, magic, mythic, rational, pluralistic, integral, and then psychic, subtle, causal, nondual on top, the top four marked as states. Right: the Wilber-Combs lattice from Integral Spirituality, the six structure-stages up the side and the four states, gross or psychic, subtle, causal, nondual, across the top, twenty-four cells. The four top rungs of the ladder have become the column headers; the six lower rungs have become the row labels. Below, a verbatim passage from Integral Spirituality chapter 4 and a note that Integral Psychology already said states are available at any stage. WILBER WIKI · WHAT CHANGED BETWEEN TWO BOOKS States off the ladder In 2000 the mystical states sit on top of one developmental ladder. In 2006 the same words name a second axis. INTEGRAL PSYCHOLOGY · 2000 higher structures nonduala structure, on the ladder causala structure, on the ladder subtlea structure, on the ladder psychica structure, on the ladder integralchart 1 worldview: Holistic-integralism pluralisticchart 1 worldview: Pluralistic-relativism rationalchart 1 worldview: Formalism mythicchart 1: Magic-mythic / Mythic-rational magicchart 1 worldview: Magical archaicchart 1 worldview: Archaic drawn as structures INTEGRAL SPIRITUALITY · 2006 STATES gross / psychica state · waking subtlea state · dreaming causala state · formless nonduala state STRUCTURE-STAGES integral pluralistic rational mythic magic archaic integral × gross/psychic: a gross-state experience, interpreted through the integral stage integral × subtle: a subtle-state experience, interpreted through the integral stage integral × causal: a causal-state experience, interpreted through the integral stage integral × nondual: a nondual-state experience, interpreted through the integral stage pluralistic × gross/psychic: a gross-state experience, interpreted through the pluralistic stage pluralistic × subtle: a subtle-state experience, interpreted through the pluralistic stage pluralistic × causal: a causal-state experience, interpreted through the pluralistic stage pluralistic × nondual: a nondual-state experience, interpreted through the pluralistic stage rational × gross/psychic: a gross-state experience, interpreted through the rational stage rational × subtle: a subtle-state experience, interpreted through the rational stage rational × causal: a causal-state experience, interpreted through the rational stage rational × nondual: a nondual-state experience, interpreted through the rational stage mythic × gross/psychic: a gross-state experience, interpreted through the mythic stage mythic × subtle: a subtle-state experience, interpreted through the mythic stage mythic × causal: a causal-state experience, interpreted through the mythic stage mythic × nondual: a nondual-state experience, interpreted through the mythic stage magic × gross/psychic: a gross-state experience, interpreted through the magic stage magic × subtle: a subtle-state experience, interpreted through the magic stage magic × causal: a causal-state experience, interpreted through the magic stage magic × nondual: a nondual-state experience, interpreted through the magic stage archaic × gross/psychic: a gross-state experience, interpreted through the archaic stage archaic × subtle: a subtle-state experience, interpreted through the archaic stage archaic × causal: a causal-state experience, interpreted through the archaic stage archaic × nondual: a nondual-state experience, interpreted through the archaic stage each cell: a state experience, interpreted through a stage · 6 × 4 here; Wilber counts 7 × 4 = 28 “…gross/psychic, subtle, causal, and nondual were no longer stages stacked on top of the Western conventional stages, but were states (including altered states and peak experiences) that can and did occur alongside any of those stages.” Ken Wilber, Integral Spirituality (2006), ch. 4 ◇ What changed is the picture, and the weight put on it: Integral Psychology (2000) already says these states are “available to human beings at virtually any stage of growth” (ch. 1) and traces the grid idea to A Sociable God (1983). The row names are IS's Gebser-like list; the small labels give the nearest IP chart-1 worldview. Sources: Integral Psychology, chart 1 (structure spine, worldview column) · Integral Spirituality, ch. 4 Redrawn; not a reproduction of a published figure · ◇ marks this wiki's own note SEEDS OF RENAISSANCE · WILBER WIKI
2000: one spine of basic structures. Psychic, subtle, causal and nondual are drawn as its top rungs. 2006: the four become states, running across the top of a grid. The six structure-stages run up the side of the grid. Every cell is a state experience interpreted through a stage: a person at any stage can have any of the states. The settled diptych, with Wilber's sentence and the honest note that IP already said this. This is the shareable image.

In Integral Psychology (2000) the mystical states (psychic, subtle, causal, nondual) are drawn as the top four rungs of a single developmental ladder. In Integral Spirituality (2006) the same words name a second axis. They are states that can be experienced at any stage, and each experience is interpreted through the stage of the person having it:

"…gross/psychic, subtle, causal, and nondual were no longer stages stacked on top of the Western conventional stages, but were states (including altered states and peak experiences) that can and did occur alongside any of those stages."

Ken Wilber, Integral Spirituality (2006), ch. 4

What changed is mostly the picture and the weight put on it. Integral Psychology already says these states are "available to human beings at virtually any stage of growth" (ch. 1), and traces the grid idea back to A Sociable God (1983). More: From SES to Integral Spirituality.

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